could those of you who want to bash CML at every turn please do it on this thread as I am sick fed up of trying to find the snow conditions on the "cairngorm snow" thread to be affornted by 100 word essays on marketing and general cairngorm bashing, please keep the threads relevant to their titles so others can easily access the info they are looking for.

[Admin Edit - change title]

Be Nice to Skiers, they have it hard enough already



Edited 1 times. Last edit at 23.55hrs Sun 2 Dec 07 by alan.

100 word essay?

Thats more a paragraph!

Yup it's kinda off topic but there's no Chinese wall between these issues and those pretending there is are IMHO frankly sicking their heads in the sand.

I'm sure some here also get "affronted" by some people's knee jerk defences of CML and their seeming wish to damn and ignore even constructive comment so it works both ways!

I rarely post here these days because even the slightest hint of supposed bashing leads to this sort of stuff... you can take a horse to water and all that...

In truth though life's too short and I don't get "affronted" but it does work both ways

An excellent idea to have separate forum to ask questions about the ongoing management of Cairngorm.

I'm happy to give anyone the courtesy of explaining things to me before i start ranting.

A few for a start

1. What exactly is the reason that the Ptarmigan webcam can't be moved 45 degrees ?
Is it glued down or fixed some way that can't be moved easily ? Who exactly has the responsibility at CML so i can ask them directly ? When it is facing the Ptarmigan and iced/snowd over - is it impossible to give it a wee scrape twice a day ? Is it too high off the ground to get to the top of the window ?

2. Why didnt the CML website show any vertical ? was it just an oversight ?

3. Who is supposed to make sure that the Ski Scotland website displays the correct info - was it Ski Scotland who got it wrong - or do they only display what they are given by the resorts ?

4. Do the resorts all employ marketing or PR staff ? Who is the person at CML ?
Rather than idly postulate and speculate here - i'd rather speak to the person who can give the official line on these things.

Ropetow

Why not phone them and ask.............

ps - use it or lose it !!



ropetow Wrote:
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> An excellent idea to have separate forum to ask
> questions about the ongoing management of
> Cairngorm.
>
> I'm happy to give anyone the courtesy of
> explaining things to me before i start ranting.
>
> A few for a start
>
> 1. What exactly is the reason that the Ptarmigan
> webcam can't be moved 45 degrees ?
> Is it glued down or fixed some way that can't be
> moved easily ? Who exactly has the responsibility
> at CML so i can ask them directly ? When it is
> facing the Ptarmigan and iced/snowd over - is it
> impossible to give it a wee scrape twice a day ?
> Is it too high off the ground to get to the top of
> the window ?
>
> 2. Why didnt the CML website show any vertical ?
> was it just an oversight ?
>
> 3. Who is supposed to make sure that the Ski
> Scotland website displays the correct info - was
> it Ski Scotland who got it wrong - or do they only
> display what they are given by the resorts ?
>
> 4. Do the resorts all employ marketing or PR staff
> ? Who is the person at CML ?
> Rather than idly postulate and speculate here -
> i'd rather speak to the person who can give the
> official line on these things.

This thread has been renamed and should be used to discuss aspects of CairnGorm that doesn't relate to current conditions and operations. I know there's a fine line there but the thread had reached 20pages by the start of the season!

Just a note on the Ptarmigan T-bars present day capacity (as it came up in the snow thread). The carrier spacing gives an interval of 18s between T-bars and people were usually in place and waiting with more than 12s to spare. This gives 200 T-bars an hour going through the load point which equates to a theoretical capacity of 400.

Ive criticized cairngorm in the past and i'll probably do it again, but fair do's, when the mrs fell today and broke her wrist the ski patrol couldn't have dealt with it better, thanks guys.

Shh Andy hide these posts, I'm trying to convince my missus to learn to ski bhut her fear of broken bones is stopping her form learning!

The Ptarmigan Webcam is presently in it's 'Summer' position where it shows an image looking down from the Ptarmigan and over the wider Glenmore/Strathspey area. In the 'Winter' months the camera is physically moved over to the right hand side (as you come in the main door to the restaurant) and shows an image that looks out over the Ptarmigan Bowl. It can therefore provide viewers with a better view of the snow conditions from it's 'Winter' position. For some reason, CML haven't yet moved it to it's 'Winter' position, even though lift served snowsports are now available. I have no idea why they are choosing not to shift it at this time. Perhaps it's something to do with the fact that the reliability of operation is more than suspect (not working today or yesterday) and the company are working on a solution to the problems before moving the camera. More information when I have it.

Regards
Olderalan

Thanks for changing the thread title Alan, as it was originally worded it looked designed to wind people up!

Didn't "affront" me tho

I've made a few PR suggestions (all 100 words or more - shock!) in the other thread - any chance they could be moved across here?

Ptarmigan Camera is now in it's Winter position but there may still be unresolved issues with refreshing the images.

Regards
Olderalan

webcams still not refreshing , anybody know if any of the base has survived

CML have been offered assistance to resolve the problems with their webcams. They may have a solution in hand themselves but these 'issues' have been going on now for over a year.
In reply to the post about the online ticketing (posted in the Cairngorm Snow Thread) The difficulties with the ticketing system were discussed, at length, with the management about 10 months ago. We were assured that their new ticketing system was 'fit for purpose' and capable of handling much more than just the purchase of tickets online (the possibility of equipment hire being moved online was mentioned) As the system is still dysfunctional today then I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions.

Regards
Olderalan

I'm excited to reveal that it isn't all bad news in relation to CGM's public image:

http://thebogblog.blog.co.uk/2005/07/29/the_highest_toilet_in_the_uk

Very uplifting.